McCain not sure how many houses he owns

The problem is that his Sedona ranch has 6 houses on it. How do you count that? As 6 or 1? His Phoenix condo is actually 2 condos combined to make one. Count that as one or two? And he gave his daughter a gift of a loft. Is that his or hers?

I wish I had problems like that.

What about McSHAME's $520 shoes? What about McSHAME's comment that no one is rich unless they make more than $5 million dollars a year? What about McSHAME not even knowing how many homes he owns?

What about Cindy McSHAME's comment that "the only way to get around Arizona is by private plane" after she got her pilot's license and bought a plane?

And they call Obama elitist.

Obama graduated from Harvard.

McSHAME graduated 894 out of a class of 899 from the Naval Academy. And that ain't West Point. He couldn't qualify for West Point.

Is is just me, or isn't anyone else TIRED of DUMB presidents??

I don't care what anyone says at this point. No one will convince me that McCain understands the average working class American any more than Bush did..

Rhonda you should watch the whole piece in which McCain said what he considers rich. It was a dumb question asked and McCain just spit out a number he thought considers someone rich, don't just listen to Obama try and take every little thing that McCain does and turn it around for his agenda. Obama said at one point during this campaign that he had visited 57 states and hadn't gone to Hawaii or Alaska yet. I could care less if the president doesn't know how many houses he owns, if he doesn't know how many states are in the country he wants to be president of he is in trouble.

I don't know how much you actually know about Barack, but him and his wife bring in more than enough money to consider them rich and elitist and what is so wrong with having a lot of money. In today's society isn't that part of just about everyone's agenda?

Is anyone else TIRED of DUMB liberals personally attacking people instead of getting facts and arguing a position?

Who's Arguing my friend? It's a fact John Mclame lives in his own wealthy Mcworld with his second Mcwife and doesn't know how to use a computer. He could care less if everybody worked at McDonalds because he married his fortune and didn't have to earn it, now theirs an elitist. My landlords are in their 70's and could tell you exactly how many properties they own (6) without hesitation. He talks more like John McAlzheimers from the nursing home down the street and less like an articulate world statesman.

There is nothing wrong with being rich, as long as you do not go around telling the average American that you are one of them and feel their pain.

John McAlzheimers from the nursing home

Yes, it's things like this that give the hint he's not in touch with reality.

Rhonda and Dunite, why do you have to use offensive racial terms? You do know the term Mc is racist against st the Irish. God knows what would happen if it were the other way around.

BRAVO Sheila-280253.

Why are we spending $10 billion a month over in Iraq while America flounders because we suddenly have so many newly-poor who lose their homes and cannot afford groceries or healthcare?

Why are we spending $10 billion a month over in Iraq while America ignored Katrina victims and the midwest flood victims?

Why are we spending $10 billion a month over in Iraq when the Iraquis have an $80 billion surplus due to high oil prices and they are banking their own money while using ours?

MOST IMPORTANTLY: Why did McSHAME vote for this illegal and immoral war in the first place?

McSHAME wants everyone to believe that the entire Iraqui war is the SURGE. NOT!

This illegal and immoral war has been going on for YEARS...oh! Did I hear McSHAME say he wants us to remain there for "100 years??"

It should not matter to either party how much a person has. Look at their policies and debate on that. This is garbage and not a reason to choose your president. I think people seem extremely jealous of both candidates having money. Who honestly cares how many houses either of them have. It is sad that an election comes to this and not policies and experience. They both have a lot of money Obama pulled in over 4 million McCain and wife 6 million. I do not think there is that much of a difference there.

It should not matter to either party how much a person has. Look at their policies and debate on that. This is garbage and not a reason to choose your president. I think people seem extremely jealous of both candidates having money. Who honestly cares how many houses either of them have. It is sad that an election comes to this and not policies and experience. They both have a lot of money Obama pulled in over 4 million McCain and wife 6 million. I do not think there is that much of a difference there.

That's true. But McSame started it by calling Obama an "elitist." And nobody likes a hypocrite.

I believe he was referring to his personality. I do not think McCain talks down to people and treats then as though he is more smart than them. I think that is what he is referring to, not salary.

so you think the USA needs another four years of blunder and blame. McCain is the same as Bush. As candidate he already blaming the lack of oil drilling as a reason of high oil prices. There are over 6 million acres of land still available for drilling but yet untouched, and McCain's main campaign manager is Graham, who opened the gateway to speculators when he deregulated the industry. Combine this with the personal holdings in oil ventures of McCain,Bush, Cheney, and Rice all you are going to get is four more years of political nepotism to the Oil companies.
McCain has offered no new policies other then jumping on the Oil industries band wagon of insisting more land allotments are needed for drilling. Regulation is the only answer, yes we are a free county, and as a free country we should be able to strive as a people and a nation. We based our economy on production, since Bush took office where has industry moved. Ok blame NAFTA, but NAFTA was drafted by Bush 1, fact is industries and corporations since Bush 2 took office are given incentives to move manufacturing over seas.
Giving four years to McCain will be the biggest mistake since Bush
Remember Clinton, and surplus of SS and GNP.
Ok now you are going to blame the dems in Congress, hey Clinton had a republican congress and still was able to get a surplus and the WTC stood until a year after Bush took office. I live in NY and the mayor of NYC during the first attack and the second was Ghouliani. Not to mention during the London subway bombings he was there at the time of the explosions, blabbering in a 250000.00 lecture consisting of security. Media hype and over projection at the finest!!!
Is the economy or the WTC the Dems or Clinton's fault, please tell me you think so, in which you and folks like you can prove my blunder and blame theory.

The reason why I will not vote for Obama is, his extreme lack of experience, although he is extremely educated he is not experienced. He is far too left, universal healthcare, 845 billion dollar end war poverty bill, and his need to help the poor, which would increase the amount we spend on welfare(which is too much to begin with), and he thinks we should send out another stimulous check, and raise taxes on people who work. His way to pay for part of his agenda would be to eliminate Bush's tax cuts(please view)

Child Credit: This credit will shrink from $1,000 to $700 per child on January 1, 2005.
The 10 Percent Bracket: The upper income level for this bracket will decrease by $1,000 per filer on January 1, 2005.
The 15 Percent Bracket for Joint Filers: On January 1, 2005, the upper limit of this bracket will shrink from 200 to 180 percent of the upper limit of the 15 percent bracket for single filers, creating a marriage penalty.
Standard Deduction for Joint Filers: On January 1, 2005, this will shrink from 200 to 174 percent of the standard deduction for single filers, creating a marriage penalty.
Alternative Minimum Tax: Exemptions will decrease by $6,500 per filer on January 1, 2005.
Bonus Depreciation: This provision, which changes depreciation schedules for businesses in a way that encourages investment, will expire on January 1, 2005.
Small Business Expensing: On January 1, 2006, the maximum amount that a business may deduct will fall from $100,000 to $25,000, which will not be indexed to inflation.
Capital Gains: Rates will rise to 10 or 20 percent, depending upon income, on January 1, 2009.
Dividends: Rates will rise to match standard income tax rates on January 1, 2009.
Child Credit: This credit will shrink from $700 to $500 per child on January 1, 2011.
The Income Tax: Rates will increase between 3 and 4.5 percentage points in each bracket on January 1, 2011.
The 10 Percent Bracket: The bracket will be eliminated on January 1, 2011, raising the income tax burden of many workers by 5 percentage points.
The 15 Percent Bracket for Joint Filers: On January 1, 2011, the upper limit of this bracket will shrink from 200 to 167 percent of the upper limit of the 15 percent bracket for single filers, creating a marriage penalty.
Standard Deduction for Joint Filers: On January 1, 2011, this will shrink from 200 to 167 percent of the standard deduction for single filers, creating a marriage penalty.
The Estate Tax: The top rate for this tax will increase to 60 percent on January 1, 2011, and the value of an estate exempt from taxation will shrink to $1 million, which is less than it is today.

Most of these tax cuts are for middle class citizens and with that being said they will take that money to create his low income programs. I would consider myself middle class, and I still want and need my deductions.

The Bush tax cuts only increased my SS, retirement, and medical insurance. Please note also medicaid went up in price, both by deductibles and qualifications. I have a wheel chair bound brother and my mom is a retiree, both are paying an average of 600 a month and they are responsible for deductible outlays, and prescriptions. This was all done in the last 5 years, and since they are on fixed incomes, it effects them more than you and I. I hope when we are that old or if we become disabled we will have a president that will consider the middle class, retired, and disabled.
Being middle class isn't making over one hundred thousand a year,but according to federal guide lines middle class is a person making thirty eight thousand a year, McCain disability pension alone is fifty eight thousand. Note I am a working DAV (E6) and my VA benefit is 600 a month based on a forty percent disability.
McCain is a good guy but he is from a different world than I, he is from a wealthy military elite family, both his father and grand father admirals, who influence help him get a commission. McCain's wife is also from inherited great wealth, perhaps making more in a year than will make in my life time.
At fifty years old I am happy with my life, and regret not a thing. I accept what I was given and hold no animosities to those doing better than me. I consider myself more fortunate than some, and I always worked and been aggressive in achieving a good life.
I am choosing Obama not upon his up bringing (economically) being the same as my self, but for the reason of I can see his ideals, and his understanding of the average American.
McCain's pass references implying if some one cant afford to pay their bills, just get a higher paying job, remarks like that and others more recent is a sign of how out of touch he is with people like my self.
Voting for Obama will not create an Utopia, but his ideas are right for me. He understands the difference a increase of just 2 percent in medical costs or SS will do to people like my mother and brother.
McCain does relate to problems in my circle, nor does he really care, I saw that when he first rejected the Webb GI bill. McCain claimed it would effect retention in the armed forces, and that America would have to pay a larger share for these wounded vets. McCain himself a DAV should have committed to the Vets from the start instead of caving to his parties rejection of the bill. McCain finally voted for the bill, but only when he found it was good for his campaign.
You can vote for McCain but I will vote for Obama. We are all Americans, I am a working class (blue collar) veteran, my concerns differ from your concerns. You are not wrong for voting for McCain, your life and family priorities are different than mine. This does not make either of us bad or good, it is just a reflection of different views and social-economic lives.

Thank you Thomas.

I have a 19-year-old son who has a very bright future at his chosen profession, and it ain't in Iraq.

I don't want to give my son to McSHAME to be killed in an illegal, immoral, and unnecessary war.

Yes, Thomas, McSHAME will reinstate the draft. How do you mothers with sons 14 and over feel about losing your son to be drafted into fighting (and dying) just because McSHAME is a war monger and for no other reason?

See this:

CNN-Although McCain says he will only support reinstating the draft should there be a World War III, he may be more open to the draft than it seems. During a July 2006 interview on CNN, McCain was asked about the following statement by Newt Gingrich: "We're in the early stages of what I would describes as the Third World War and, frankly, our bureaucracies aren't responding fast enough. We might need to consider reinstating the draft."

Asked whether he agreed, McCain said:

"I do support reinstating the draft to some extent. I think it's important to recognize that we have terrorist organizations which -- who are dangerous by themselves, are now being supported by radical Islamic governments, i.e., the Iranians, which makes them incredibly more dangerous because they are trained, equipped, motivated and assisted in every way by the Iranians."

We are liberated women now, it won't just be sons, but daughters will go too. you could possibly be send two from the same family. And keep in mind that McShame also said that he would chase Osama to the gates of hell to bring him to justice. Keep in mind that Mc. want be chasing osama, your sons and daughters will. And if you thinking that he want raise your taxes, think again, I heard him say nothings off the table, including more tax breaks, for oil, big business, and corporations that move their business to other countries.
But hear is the real kicker for me: If we think that our taxes should not be raised, and if we think that our country would be safer with someone that can start wars, instead of trying to talk first. Why is that everything Barack said that he would do, President Bush is already trying to do, or is doing, Barack says talk, McCain says appeasement, Bush talks with Korea, Barack say time-line, McCain says he'd rather win and election than win a war, Bush says we have a time Horizon for Iraq. June 2011. Are we Idiots? do we just like to be lie too? or are we educated illiterates? As our President like to call us. I've seen uneducated people use more common sense. By the way the off shore drilling will give you a psychological satisfaction, and it will the oil company owner ship of d--m near all of the oil, if not all of the oil in this country, and ten years from now it will help nobody but the descendants of the oil companies.

Barack is just an average guy? Don't they own a little house of their own?

Six bedrooms, four fireplaces, a four-car garage and 5 1/2 baths, including a double steam shower and a marble powder room. It had a wine cellar, a music room, a library, a solarium, beveled glass doors and a granite-floored kitchen.

It was a step up from their "starter" 415,000.00 condo.

The Obamas bought the house for $300,000 less than the asking price of $1.95 million, while Rezko's wife, Rita, bought the neighboring lot for the full asking price of $625,000. Rita Rezko later sold a portion of the undeveloped lot to the Obamas, enlarging the senator's yard.

Tony Rezko already had been linked to a grand jury investigation involving public corruption. Last month, he was convicted of 16 counts in an influence-peddling scheme that reached the highest levels of Illinois state government.

Hey Barack is just and "average guy" Hey everbody I know has friends convicted of 16 counts of influence peddling!

The point isn't how "average" Obama is or isn't. I certainly don't want an "average" guy in the White House. We've already seen the mess voting for someone you'd "like to have a beer with" has gotten this country into.

The real point is, McCain is completely out of touch with this country and the problems its citizens face. Yes, I suppose if I had too many homes to count and had access to my mistress-turned-spouse's multi-million dollar trust fund, I might think anyone making under $5 million a year was less-than-wealthy as well. For someone accusing Barack Obama of being the "celebrity," McCain, his lifestyle and his outlook on society sure do seem to resemble that of a certain heiress we're all familiar with.

What's more, if a man can't even be bothered to keep track of the number of homes he owns, how can he be trusted to take care of an entire country?

Do you remember that video of McSHAME in the cheese aisle of a grocery store?

He looked and acted CLUELESS because he WAS clueless.

McSHAME probably has not bought his own groceries or pumped his own gas since before Vietnam. Certainly not since he married his wealthy, young heiress.

So, let's look at McSHAME. Let's take a close look, I dare you all to comment on the rest of my post:

McSHAME cheated on his first wife to marry his 17-year-younger mistress. (why is it bad for John Edwards but okay for McCain?).

McSHAME was implicated for taking bribes in the Keating Five scandal (google it if you have never heard of it).

McSHAME graduated 894 out of a class of 899 at the Naval Academy. Bottom feeder! And that was when he was still young enough to have all his brain cells.

McSHAME voted against women being able to sue their employers if not treated fairly, saying that women "need more training."

McSHAME voted against contraceptives being covered by insurance but voted FOR Viagra to be covered by insurance. Maybe if it were the other way around, abortion would not be such an issue. But since it is, oh by the way, McSHAME is anti-choice.

What McSHAME really is, is anti-woman.

If America elects this guy, then America will get what it deserves. A war monger who will get us all nuked by Russia.

I would have to say in Massachusetts middle class would be making from 150,000 to 500,000. Describing rich is a different thing. If you look at people who make in the billions they are described as rich and in Obama's perspective so isn't a person making 250,000? It truly does not matter how you interpret it, either way a man in his 70's pulling in 450,000$ is amazing and he has done well for himself in his own right. He obviously has made good life choices. It annoys me when so many people are divorced and McCain has been with his 2nd wife for over 25 years, I think everyone should leave it alone. That is no reason to not vote for somone, it disgusts me to keep hearing it. Bring up other issues to debate on not assumptions.

I would have to say in Massachusetts middle class would be making from 150,000 to 500,000. Describing rich is a different thing. If you look at people who make in the billions they are described as rich and in Obama's perspective so isn't a person making 250,000? It truly does not matter how you interpret it, either way a man in his 70's pulling in 450,000$ is amazing and he has done well for himself in his own right. He obviously has made good life choices. It annoys me when so many people are divorced and McCain has been with his 2nd wife for over 25 years, I think everyone should leave it alone. That is no reason to not vote for somone, it disgusts me to keep hearing it. Bring up other issues to debate on not assumptions.

Puleeze! Give me a break!!! You're going after the guy who earned his money to buy his home and even though, by his own admission, he shouldn't have done anything that even hinted of connection to Rezko, he has not been connected to any corruption of any kind with anyone.

You're going after Obama in an attempt to defend McCain who cheated on his first wife to hook up with the little rich kid daughter of a multi-millionaire who made his money on the backs of drunken rednecks. . . And please don't talk to me about corruption. Can you spell Keating. That's just the start. Lobbyist advisors connected to Abramoff, an economic advisor connected to Enron, and the list goes on. The only job outside the military and the government McCain had was when he worked for about a year for daddy-in-law in the beer business. Even there he wasn't wanted. Cindy's daddy bought him a legislative seat to get him out of the business.

I know that McCain is a busy man running from house to house on the weekends and was never known for his study habits but to not even know how many homes you own. . . It's beyond comprehension that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would vote for this guy.

Bravo, Ron!
Last night, I watched CNN's report on both candidates. Since I "Tivo'd" it I had to rewind it a few timeS on McCain's segment because, not once during the segment it mentioned what he did all the time he spent in the senate. Not one mention. All they had to report on was his really bad temper. No mention of ever working with the "people". No legislative work mentioned. No education to speak of. My point is, everyone keeps saying that Obama has no experience. When the truth of the matter is, neither does John McCain. Oh, yes, there was an extensive portion about his POW experience, which I did find heart wrenching. But that was over 40 years ago, right? He was in the navy, not really good at it, flew a fighter plan, got shot down, survive abuse by the enemy and became very popular. He used that angle for 35 years. Why does everyone keep calling that war experience? What people really mean when they say they can't identify with Obama is that although he grew up like most Americans, without a father, in public city and schools just like most Americans, he's still a black guy. Does no one think its honorable that instead of taking his fancy law degree and going to a big law firm or wall street to make millions, instead he moved to the inner-city (Chicago), started a movement of self-awarenes in the community to show the impoverished that they are their own best voice. Does no one think that's honorable? Please let's be honest folks, if he were a white guy with the same background, McCain wouldn't have a chance. And what's really scary is that people are willing to endure more of the same rape this country experience with Bush by voting for a guy who has no idea what a loaf of bread cost, or what is happening in our public schools. PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER. PLEASE TELL ME WHY MCCAIN IS THE BETTER CHOICE? IF REPUBLICANS HAD A CANDIDATE WITH A RESUME REMOTELY CLOSE TO OBAMA'S (a short as it is), MCCAIN WOULD NOT BE THEIR CANDIDATE OF CHOICE.

Victor,
Why is McCain a better choice? OK, I'll tell you. This is rather long but I do hope you'll take the time to read it.

Without the surge in Iraq that, lest we forget, Senator Obama strongly opposed, and whose success he still tries to deny, Iraq would be in chaos, America's enemies crowing, terrorism revitalized, our allies demoralized and the rest of the Middle East quaking. But the growing prospect of victory in Iraq has tended to remove it as a political issue,thank goodness. Nothing unites like success. The brigades devoted to the surge are now out of Iraq, the Iraqis are moving into political confrontations rather then civil war, and victory is in sight, not that Barack Obama is prepared for that.

There are few things sadder in this presidential campaign then General Obama's trying to to depict himself as some kind of realist. When he does, as before the real vets this week, even his legendary smoothness deserts him.

Senator Obama bridles when it's pointed out that he favored failure in Iraq, but if this president and commander -in-chief hadn't finally followed John McCain's advice, changed secretaries of defense, and replaced his incompetent generals with an effective commander, America would now be confronting another Vietnam-era defeat-this one in the heart of the Middle East. All of which might have been good for the Democratic presidential candidate's chances in this election, but it would have been disastrous for America and freedom everywhere.

At that infamous congressional hearing when the Surge was still largely an abstraction rather then an accomplished fact, Senator Obama's co-star at next week's Democratic convention, Hillary Clinton, said it would take a " willing suspension of disbelief" to back General David Petraeus' new strategy. Which may have been the most memorable misjudgement in contemporary military history. And the junior senator from Illinois seconded her motion.

Has either of these armchair generals ever recognized how wrong they were on Iraq? Has either ever apologized to the real general whose leadership has matched the valor and skill of our troops in Iraq? If so, I haven't noticed. They're awfully quiet on the subject of General Petraeus and his strategy now. Maybe they have some shame after all.

Instead, Barack Obama pretends that it's his patriotism that's being criticized, not his military judgement, which has been more political than military. What a stark contrast with John McCain's record. McCain was criticizing Donald Rumsfeld in the strongest terms years ago, while Barack Obama was shillyshallying, as always. Happily, Mr.Rumsfeld is no longer secretary of defense and we're winning in Iraq. But it was John McCain who stuck to the goal of victory through the darkest days in Iraq and never wavered, while Barack Obama was ready to pull out and hope for the best, which in reality would have been the worst possible outcome.

At one point, Senator Obama said his policy toward Iraq was much the same as President Bush's, but that of course was early on, when we appeared to have won a short war. Never fear: Barack Obama is not about to desert his country's cause in its hour of victory. It is only in time of crisis- when the enemy is advancing and America is divided and defeat seems inevitable, in those times that try men's souls, to borrow a line from Thomas Paine-That Barack Obama fails the test as president-and commander-in chief.

So you see Victor, that's why I'm voting for John McCain

I agree, Republicans are giving Americans their second best to be President and that's being nice to say the least. Why would America vote for a man who's proven to be second to last throughout his life, I'm actually wondering about the explaination we would be giving to our kids by electing Mccain. HOW crazy? everyone tell their kids to be the best but republicans want to send a message that it's not good to be the best, HOW crazy? someone like Barack is a "living American Dream" from fatherless to a Senator, you have to be kidding me!!! What is an American Dream? or maybe the rest of us have been following a ghost of American Dream.

LostYankee -

You were identified as a paid Republican poster a few days ago, but even if you are on the payroll, I still challenge your "facts".

You seem to have a crystal ball ... how convenient that you know what would have happened in Iraq if not for the surge. But even if we accept your premise that things would be worse in Iraq without the surge, you do not seem to acknowledge the role of the Sunni awakening in all of this. Somehow, you seem to think of McCain, like Teddy Roosevelt, charging up San Juan hill, saber drawn. NOT!

The effectiveness of our military was never the question. The question from Obama was how are we going to solve a political crisis with a military solution. And that question still remains. With the Sunni Awakening, there has been a reduction in violence. But has there been a reconciliation. The big question in Iraq is still "how will oil revenue be split up?" And until that gets answered fairly, there will be little political progress.

McCain also was not, as you would like to believe, one of Rumsfelds great detractors. The early and loud protests came from Democrats (including Obama and Clinton). However, those accurate evaluations of his performance fell on deaf ears FOR YEARS. Only when it was so obvious that Rummy was a dummy did McCain join the chorus of Democrats and some Republicans to criticize Rummy. So Obama figured that one out first and McCain was, as usual, a Johnny come lately.

Now, as for Obama v. McCain in military/political judgement; let's review the facts. In the biggest issue of this century, Obama called the invasion of Iraq a mistake. McCain enthusiastically supported it. Obama 1, McCain 0. Obama called upon Pakistan to clean up it's act and that he, as president, would bomb targets inside Pakistan if he felt it was in the best interests of the US to do so. McCain called that statement dumb. A month later, the US bombed a target in Pakistan, without permission, because it was in the best interests of the US. Obama 2, McCain 0. Obama has long called for us to engage in discussions with our enemies. McCain said we should never sit down with our enemies. After years of criticism, the Bush Adm finally sat down with the North Koreans (one of the Axis of Evil) and negotiated an end to nuclear processing. Obama 3, McCain 0.

So in the test of who would be the best commander in chief, it turns out that McCain is a ZERO.

BfromD,
You do make some good arguments..... to the uninformed
So, Barack was questioning how we were going to solve a political crisis with a military solution? I don't recall Barack ever asking questions. As far as I can remember all he wanted to do was leave. But, for arguments sake lets say that was his question, if there isn't a military victory first, a political solution would be out of the question. Did we not achieve military victory in Japan and Europe before a political solution was reached?
Thanks to the Surge it is now possible to solve the problems in Iraq with the Iraqis working through the political system they themselves have established. Imperfect as it is, its a start.
No, I promise you I'm not a paid Republican poster but, I'm flattered to know you think I am. I guess you believe it's impossible for just an average Joe to actually pay attention to what's going on and come to their own conclusions. Is that troublesome to you?
Perhaps your a paid Democrat poster that has to run back to your boss for talking points before making a post.
What I post are just my thoughts. You post yours, I post mine. Isn't it great that we live in a country were we are free to speak our minds? Its one of the things that makes America great. I may disagree with you but your free to have your say just as I'm free to have mine.
Unlike many of those on the left ( of one I use to be ) I will call the victor in the upcoming election....... MY President. Will you?

Just one last question. How can you believe the Surge wasn't succesfull. Obviuosly, the FACTS speak for themselfs. To deny it is just plain ignorance

Is John McCain really a hero?

I know that John McCain is a Vietnam veteran/POW, etc., and I respect that. But he showed a real lack of class when he divorced his first wife, Carol McCain! During the time when John McCain was a POW in Vietnam, Carol McCain provided unwaivering support to John McCain. She sent frequent letters and packages to him (few of which the North Vietnamese let through). She became active in the POW/MIA movement, while those around her wore bracelets with her husband's name and capture date on them. She was interviewed on the CBS Evening News in 1970, and said that Christmas had no meaning for her without her husband present, but that she carried on with it for the sake of their children.

Tragically, while visiting her family in Philadelphia on Christmas Eve 1969, Carol McCain was driving alone in snowy, icy conditions and while approaching an intersection on an isolated country road, she skidded and collided with a telephone pole. She was thrown from the car into the snow, and went into shock. She had two smashed legs, a broken pelvis, broken arm, and ruptured spleen. She spent six months in the hospital, and over the course of the next two years had 23 operations. She also endured extensive physical therapy.

When the McCains were reunited upon his release from captivity on March 14, 1973, Carol McCain was now four inches (ten centimeters) shorter, on crutches, and substantially heavier than when John McCain had last seen her. John obviously did not like the new physical appearance of Carol McCain, so he began to commit adultery.

John McCain cheated on Carol for years and in April 1979, he met and began a relationship with Cindy Lou Hensley, an Arizona special education teacher and Hensley & Co. heiress. Ross Perot would later say that, "After he (John McCain) came home, he walked with a limp, she (Carol McCain) walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona (Cindy McCain, his current wife) and the rest is history."

After a 10-month extramarital affair with Cindy, John McCain pushed to end the marriage with Carol McCain, who was described by friends as being in shock from the developments. The McCains stopped cohabiting and John McCain filed for a divorce in February 1980, which Carol McCain accepted. When asked by a friend what had gone wrong, she said, "It's just one of those things." WHAT'S AMAZING TO ME IS THE FACT THAT JOHN MCCAIN APPLIED FOR A MARRIAGE LICENSE (TO MARRY CINDY) ONE MONTH BEFORE HE DIVORCED CAROL! Ladies, now that's a real man for you!

John McCain is a joke! How can Republicans support this guy?

Yes, that's it! Thank you, Lost Yankee!

That's the word I was looking for - Barack Obama is a REALIST. Although I do detect a good amount of idealism in him, too, which is very attractive to Americans who want to regain some pride in this country after getting dragged through two delusional wars.

Barack Obama had the clarity and judgement to see from the beginning that W's "global war on terror" (burp) was an excuse to wage a war of lies. Barack Obama will NEVER admit that the surge worked, because it's simply delusion on top of delusion.

Oh, please! He can see right through your right-wing traps!

Of course, Barack Hussein is just an average guy! It's amazing to me how leftists destroy McCain's name with McShame or, as I saw on another discussion, McFossil (I thought leftists opposed agism). Such tactics simply reveal the hypocrisy of leftists who attack anyone who might offend a favored minority but feel it's fine to make fun of someone's name.

At least McCain knows there are only 50 states. Of course, Barack Hussein could have been referring to the 57 Islamic states. If so, that's revealing.

People are allowed to get divorced keep in mind that he has been with his 2nd wife for 25 years. Seems stupid to talk about him leaving his wife that long ago. His 1st wife had 2 kids previously that he adopted and he has also adopted another child with his 2nd wife. He seems like a good guy to me reguardless if he got divorced or not, it happens 50% of the time. His 2nd wife also went to college for children with special needs I would have to say that is good considering how rich she is most people do not choose that career path unless they are a decent person. McCain has also served this country for 50 years.

Yeah Obama is just an "Average guy" who went to one of the most exclusive private academies in Hawaii.

Pat, are you for real??!!!!

Pat-293163 said:

McCain is not in touch with the average American. Obama has lived as an average, or below average, American. You have to walk in the shoes to see where it hurts!

I agree with you, Pat-293163, absoultely.

One difference, however:

Obama does not walk in $520 a pair shoes, that is McSHAME. You know the guy, the one who cannot remember how many houses he owns and whose rich wife says that "the only way to get around Arizona is by private plane."

Kinda like Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy walking in the shoes of the average American?

Maybe most of us here dont understand the difficulties involved for someone like Obama to make a name for himself compared to Mccain's well established routs and wealth, if anything, people should thankful to have such a person running for the high office. If Mccain had what it takes to be Prsident, he wouldnt have waited a 1/4 of century to run for president.

Maybe you don't know Barack was elected to the Illinois senate running unopposed. No, he didn't have an opponent. Thanks to his friendship with the Daley democrat machine in Chicago along with his connections to known terrorist Bill Ayers Obama was able to have every one of his opponents disqualified before the election.

Thats a hell of a way to " Make a name for yourself "

Is John McCain really a hero?

I know that John McCain is a Vietnam veteran/POW, etc., and I respect that. But he showed a real lack of class when he divorced his first wife, Carol McCain! During the time when John McCain was a POW in Vietnam, Carol McCain provided unwaivering support to John McCain. She sent frequent letters and packages to him (few of which the North Vietnamese let through). She became active in the POW/MIA movement, while those around her wore bracelets with her husband's name and capture date on them. She was interviewed on the CBS Evening News in 1970, and said that Christmas had no meaning for her without her husband present, but that she carried on with it for the sake of their children.

Tragically, while visiting her family in Philadelphia on Christmas Eve 1969, Carol McCain was driving alone in snowy, icy conditions and while approaching an intersection on an isolated country road, she skidded and collided with a telephone pole. She was thrown from the car into the snow, and went into shock. She had two smashed legs, a broken pelvis, broken arm, and ruptured spleen. She spent six months in the hospital, and over the course of the next two years had 23 operations. She also endured extensive physical therapy.

When the McCains were reunited upon his release from captivity on March 14, 1973, Carol McCain was now four inches (ten centimeters) shorter, on crutches, and substantially heavier than when John McCain had last seen her. John obviously did not like the new physical appearance of Carol McCain, so he began to commit adultery.

John McCain cheated on Carol for years and in April 1979, he met and began a relationship with Cindy Lou Hensley, an Arizona special education teacher and Hensley & Co. heiress. Ross Perot would later say that, "After he (John McCain) came home, he walked with a limp, she (Carol McCain) walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona (Cindy McCain, his current wife) and the rest is history."

After a 10-month extramarital affair with Cindy, John McCain pushed to end the marriage with Carol McCain, who was described by friends as being in shock from the developments. The McCains stopped cohabiting and John McCain filed for a divorce in February 1980, which Carol McCain accepted. When asked by a friend what had gone wrong, she said, "It's just one of those things." WHAT'S AMAZING TO ME IS THE FACT THAT JOHN MCCAIN APPLIED FOR A MARRIAGE LICENSE (TO MARRY CINDY) ONE MONTH BEFORE HE DIVORCED CAROL! Ladies, now that's a real man for you!

John McCain is a joke! How can Republicans support this guy?

And Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge killing a young lady he was with....How can Democrats support THAT guy.

Divorce hits 50% in the USA. How can YOU be surprised that someone cheated on his wife, then divorced her. Look around you. And he has been with her since 1980, 28 years.... hardly a short-lived fling. Get over it.

Show me one president that made it through four years in the White House without a serious blunder.

Yes, John McCain is old, so was Ronald Reagan. It has already been show that longevity is a factor in his DNA, his mother is 95 and seems very coherent. If this is an indication, isn't Barack more likely to have failing health as his mother has passed away? Some how your logic is flawed.

If you want to make an informed decision look at the facts, not the emotions of the campaign.

Ben,

Because of the attitude of your response I can see that I've "barked at your tree", but really I didn't have bad attitude or hidden agenda when I said this about McCain. You see, I don't blow horn for neither one of those candidates, because I think neither one of them is a good choice for president. But just that it seemed to me little unreasonable, because McCain is up there in age, and considering things I listed, I thought it made sense. Other people analyzed this situation, and said the same thing! So, don't get so hot and emotional about it, to demean my reasoning!

Good Day to you!!!

Ben-306323 said:

"Yes, John McCain is old, so was Ronald Reagan."

Reagan was 69 when he took office, McSHAME will be 72.

AND! Let's not forget, halfway through his second term, Reagan was riddled with Alzeheimer's, as demonstrated by his complete lack of remembering anything about the Iran Contra scandal with Oliver North.

So Ben-306323, you think McSHAME should still be compared to Reagan's age?? Hmmm?

This was hilarious, or would be, if it weren't so close to the truth.

I laughed out loud.

Thanks for lightening my day!

We aren no longer the 1st power nation. Perhaps we have been taken off that list already.

who is the most powerful nation then?

China!

Don't forget they got a stake in the Arizona Diamonds Backs an purchased a million dollar parking lot. If they need a lot, I wonder how many cars they own. they have a private plane. I wonder how many foreign workers maintain thier properties? "Just a thought"

I have been reading a lot about MC Cain, it is not the money or his determination that make him a threat, it is his unwillingness to change and try a new a new tack. He was like that in 2000 but he is not anymore he just want the power and once he gets it we had all better cover our behinds,.

Re: ladybmore

If a person who has so much wealth ( that he does'nt even know how many houses he has!!!) gets to be the president, how in this earth can he live in reality of every day person who' s struggling to make ends meet. Everyone knows that a person who is so wealthy and had not to struggle to make ends meet CAN NOT be a people's president. We in this country have got ourselves in such a rot, that we just simply can not get no one elected from among the people. Why is it that only choices we ever get is the FAT CATS already in Washington?!!!

Neither of them can relate on a financial field to any of us. This is stupid to even debate, they both have money. Who cares look up what policies you agree with and disagree with. Also note that because senate and house are highly dems now that Not everything that McCain tries to pass will and the majority of Obama's legislature will. That scares me because he was writing up legislation to end world poverty to give poorer countries 845 billion dollars.

I hope you are not of draft age or have kids that are of draft age.

If McCain can't count the number of houses he owns I'll just bet he won't be able to count how many wars he will get us into.

Who do you vote for, then, if not a professional politician? If you are running for President you are by definition a professional politician! Do you therefore forsake your duty as an a Mareican to vote? Not very patriotic or American in my view! As someone married to a small businessman who has to borrow more and more frome our home equity line to make our mortgage payments, I wish I had so many homes I couldn't keep track of their number or who was living in them, or be able to give them away. And by McCain's own word, Barack and Michelle are upper middle class: they only made $4.2 million last year, $800,000 less than John McCain's definition of wealthy at his Saddleback Ranch appearance. By the way, my husband's business has provided a comfortable living until the last few years when the cost of group health insurance went sky high followed by the price of gass. We've done everything "right": worked hard, tried to save, are careful with spending, etc. McCain is the small businessman's nightmare. And Barack did work his way up with intelligence, hardwork resulting in scholarships (like me and my husband) ans student loans. He was just good at it and had a mother who pushed him. He deserves everything he has, and hopefully will get: a second home in D.C.

How is McCain a small business night mare? If anything Obama is going to raise taxes on small businesses, while McCain will leave it as is.

No matter who get in office they are going to raise taxes, that's the only way there is.
Now you ask your self which one would you prefer someone who will leave the Bush tax cuts in place or someone will will only tax people making over 200,000 a yr.

Bush's tax cuts were not to people only making over 200,000 a year. It was to estate's, property etc. People who make over 200,000 grand a year normally own a small business and invest. With that being said they create jobs and help boost our economy. Taxing them heavily will contribute to job loss and restrain small business.

Muffy Si,

You honestly think that either candidate or their spouses pump their own gas or buy their own groceries?

They stop doing these chores many moons ago.

MuffySI

I understand what you are saying and get the point and you are right !!

Yes, he finished in the bottom 5 in the naval academy. Class was almost 1000

YES, YES, YES!! Thank goodness for wise Republicans like you who are starting to see the ways of the party. One of my dearest friends was a GOP supporter for a very long time, and just started to realize in the last few years what Bush and the Republicans in office have been doing to the American people. And please, let me make myself clear that I don't consider Republican American citizens to be the same as the Republican elitists in office. I truly believe that the majority of Republican citizens are good people who *think* they are doing the right thing by voting Republicans into office. The problem has been that for so many years, people have been duped into believing that the Republicans in office are all these conservative, Christian do-gooders who believe in old-fashioned America and want nothing more than to help average Americans and conserve all of our traditional American values. (And maybe they do strive for some of those things, but all while SCREWING US INTO THE GROUND!!!) The truth is that they are hypocrites who want nothing more than to help themselves and the wealthy (HELLO - Bush's family has made all their wealth off of oil. Why WOULD he care how much we are all paying for gas?). Now, I'm not going to sit here and vouch for every single Democrat politician, because I know there are hypocrites and liars in the party, just like there are in the Republican party as well. But the bottom line is that the Democrats - in general - stand for helping the people who need help. They stand for helping the underdog. Now I'm sorry, but what is more "Christian" than an attitude of "help your fellow man", rather than "I'll worry about me and my own wealth"? I'm sorry, but if people want to help the country, they need to quit getting wrapped up in the flowery rhetoric of the Republican party with all of its empty promises and start to see which party is really going to roll up its sleeves and help the American people. And even if you want to try and tell me that Barack "who cares if his middle name is Hussein?" Obama can't turn the whole nation around in a few years...well, maybe not, but I have to think he has a MUCH better shot than someone so out of touch as McCain.

Hey McCain married well doesnt mean he is rich. You know he signed a pre-nup?

Republican presidential candidate John McCain has a Senate salary, a Navy pension, monthly Social Security income, and book royalties.

He donated more than $100,000 last year to charitable organizations.

In all, the 71-year-old Arizona senator reported total income of $405,409 last year, and paid $84,460 in federal income taxes

Not "rich by any standard and certainly for someone who is a senator.

Except for the fact that he owns 10 houses and wears $520 loafers. No, not rich.

And BTW, why is he collecting a VA disability check? Do people who have jobs (US Senate) actually get disability payments? I thought being "disabled" meant you weren't able to work and earn a paycheck. I know my state disability won't pay someone who works.

And McSHAME complains that the social security system needs to be fixed as he takes his own social security check to the bank while wearing $520 shoes and not being able to remember how many homes he owns.

My mother lives (barely) on social security, and if she didn't have children to help her out financially, god help her. I have never seen my mother wear $520 shoes.

Rhonda,

What stops you from making enough money to buy $520 dollar shoes? Why are you so angry at the rich? What is stopping you from taking the risks involved in becoming rich?

I bet if someone left you a sizable trust you would be singing a very different tune.

Yes, she would be singing a different tune. I detect a lot of class envy in this discussion. Leftists hate rich people. In the perfect leftist world, we'd all make minimum wage. I love how the leftists attempt to portray Obama as "average." They do the same with the Clintons.

Obama has stated very clearly that he intends to increase taxes because Obama thinks anyone making more than $250K per year is rich. He also supports the death tax and the kiddie tax. In other words, Obama doesn't believe families should invest/save/create wealth for their children. I suppose we could donate to the Rezko defense fund.

AMEN to that!!!

Yea, and I'm sure he never uses any of her money.

He doesn't use her money, just her private jet.